A British nurse who worked in the midst 
of deadly bombings, explosions and 
violence of World War II, tending to the 
wounded 
and the scarred, landed up in Simla after 
the war, carrying with her reams of 
remarkable stories about her adventures 
in 
another world. Many years later, when 
little Ishita Khanna would sit spellbound, 
listening to her Florence Nightingale of a 
grandmother narrate her amazing stories 
as a nurse and later as a social worker 
in India with grave interest, little would 
she realize that the seed of her 
relentless passion for adventure was 
being sown in those tales.
  
Growing up, while sitting in a classroom 
at Wellham’s Girls school, Ishita would 
often dream about adventure at her 
doorstep. 
The sheer thrill of climbing mountains, the 
cool air of the meadows and the rolling 
hills outside the city of Dehradun where 
she lived meant much more to her than 
most others the same age. 
  
Ishita was born and raised in Dehradun. 
From an early age, her mother would 
encourage her to be independent and 
discover the 
outdoors. She would set out to trek in the 
mountains – savouring the many joys of 
the journey alongside a gradual 
sensitization towards nature’s fragile 
resources that coexisted delicately 
alongside various forms of life.
  
 “My various treks in the Himalayas 
brought in a great reverence for the 
mountains,” recalls Ishita vividly.
Not inclined towards a conventional 
career, Ishita fondly remembers how the 
family backed her in her efforts to pursue 
her 
passion without burdening her with 
academic pressures. She came to 
Mumbai for a master’s in social work at 
TISS, a program 
that exposed her to various development 
and conservation needs and issues. 
  
The professional program lent her a 
better understanding of the various 
social dynamics and development issues 
and thus gave 
her wider career options. However, 
Ishita chose to work close to her place of 
passion – in the mountains. She joined an 
organization and began to work on 
projects with the Himachal government. 
  
A couple of years went by, and she was 
getting impatient with the ways of 
government functioning and this apathy 
finally got 
to her. One day, she walked out and 
along with two of her friends plunged 
into an independent venture, one that 
Ishita 
remembers came out of a shared 
passion for the mountains. 
  
The team began to look into various 
development and environmental issues in 
the mountains of Spiti. They explored the 
commercial viability of seabuckthorn – a 
berry found in these parts – and then 
discovered other more sustainable areas 
of 
businesses. Efforts in areas such as 
eco-tourism ensured they survived to 
sustain their passion. 
  
  
The Spiti Valley is an unforgiving, arid 
region situated at about 10,000 to 17,000 
feet above sea level where a misdirected 
winter vacation can land you with the 
rare experience of living inside the deep-
freezer of a refrigerator at minus 30 
degrees.
  
 Heavy snowfall leaves the region 
separated from the rest of the country in 
a silent breakaway, without any 
insurgent efforts, for over half the year. 
The government has subsidized basic 
goods and services which are available 
for 50% 
of the price. The local communities have 
grown used to the subsidies and recent 
years have sometimes seen crops fail 
here. 
Ishita, through her organization 
Ecosphere, has worked towards 
improving environmental management in 
these villages. She has 
been on a mission, trying to make the 
local communities self sufficient and less 
dependent on subsidies and government 
handouts.
  
Ecosphere has been collaborating with 
other organizations in the region. Ishita 
has made substantial efforts to grow 
crops 
through greenhouses, introduced 
responsible travel for tourists and 
persuaded the locals to understand the 
perils of 
neglecting the environment.
   
Ishita has been exploring renewable 
energy options and solar passive homes 
and has been smart with communicating 
her ideas to 
the locals. She tells people how they can 
economically benefit from these new 
options whenever she has struggled to 
make them 
see reason. One of the interesting 
features of her work has been the way 
she has managed to connect with a host 
of diverse 
people - the locals, their issues and also 
the tourists and others who form an 
important part of her business and social 
clientele. 
  
In 2008 Ishita was the MTV Youth Icon of 
the year for her work. At 29, Ishita has 
achieved what many people aspire to in 
their lifetime. A matured head on firm 
shoulders has also meant an unwavering 
commitment towards her passion.  Ishita 
has not 
only worked successfully in these 
difficult areas, but she has connected 
with her passion, sustained her interests 
and 
converted it to benefit a region that had 
been lost in the wilderness.
  
When Ishita spoke to 6bridges, we were 
curious to know how she had sustained 
her yen for what she does. Despite the 
physical 
and economic hazards in her line of 
work, Ishita has indeed been one of 
those professionals who have been able 
to grow, live 
and sustain their passionate interests 
over the years.
   
We found out from her how! 
  
 
  
Interview with Ishita Khanna
  
6bridges: Tell us about your journey 
from your childhood to your professional 
degree at TISS to realizing this dream at 
Muse/Sptitiecosphere as a social 
entrepreneur.  
Ishita:
I grew up in Dehradun and studied at 
Wellhams Girls School. I wasn’t much for 
studies as such and was usually a 
backbencher 
at school. I can say that academics was 
something I wasn’t really interested in 
and most of my teachers and parents 
were 
worried as to what this girl would do 
when she grows up. I used to like going 
outside - do the outdoors and trekking – 
like 
going to the mountains and stuff. 
  
That was where my interests began 
basically for the mountains and for the 
environment. My treks in the mountains 
brought me 
close to the natural environment there. 
Since the only subject that got me 
interested initially was geography; I 
wanted to 
know more about the environment and 
nature. 
  
I wasn’t like one of those students who 
know knew in class VIII what they were 
going to do when they grew up - like 
become a 
doctor or an engineer etc.. That’s how it 
began – I was more of an outdoor kind of 
a person – a prefect for the adventure 
club, and I had done my adventure basic 
and advanced courses at the Nehru 
Institute of Mountaineering. 
  
I also did a Duke of Edinburgh award 
scheme, which is now called the 
International Award for Youth. I found 
that that was 
really good because apart from 
academics it helped you excel in other 
fields – you had to work on the skills, 
work on some 
amount of community service, you had to 
play some sort of a sport which you 
were good at, you had to have some 
expeditions 
which you had done. It had a holistic 
focus, unlike the usual focus on 
academic alone like most schools have. 
  
That really helped me try and excel in the 
particular things I was interested in.  
Anyway that was how my schooling 
happened. 
Late, I graduated with a bachelor’s in 
geography, like I said that was the only 
subject that interested me in school, and I 
wanted to more get into environmental 
planning side. In the interim, I got through 
TISS. That was a course that interested 
me 
and I felt that there could be a linkage 
between looking at rural livelihood and 
how one could link it up to the 
conservation 
of the environment.  So I specialized in 
the field called Urban and Rural 
community development at TISS.
  
6bridges: When and how did it occur 
to you that you might work in the 
mountains some day? 
Ishita:
Well it was something I always wanted 
to do. I grew up in Dehradun which is 
close to the mountains. I always loved 
trekking 
and being in the mountains. I always 
wanted to be there - in the mountains.
  
 
  
6bridges:
Ecosphere grew from the work initiated 
by Muse, an organization founded 
individuals with a passion for the 
mountains and the 
environment. It now collaborates with 
Muse. Tell us how it was formed?
 
Ishita:
I started Muse in 2002. Before that I was 
working with the government at Simla 
and we tried to push it with the 
government to 
try and work on this plant called 
seabuckthorn which is a berry that 
grows there. But you know how the 
government works, 
which is at their own pace. There had 
been some research done on 
seabuckthorn and there was one 
scientist working there who 
declared the seabuckthorn to be a 
species that could not be 
commercialized. 
  
In China there had been a lot of work on 
the commercialization of seabuckthorn, 
and then the Indian government picked up 
on 
that and wondered if they could do 
something with the seabuckthorn that 
grew here. That’s when the scientist got 
up and said 
that it was the wrong species to be 
commercialized. 
  
But the same year in which we 
discovered about this plant we got to 
know that an industrialist in Ladakh had 
started the 
lehberry juice with the plant. He had used 
the berry to make juice out of it and it took 
some time to get it out into the 
market. So, it was the right species 
because he was commercially exploiting 
it as well. We tried to push the case with 
the 
government but nothing really took of. So, 
a group of us decided that why don’t we 
do it ourselves. All three of us were 
greatly passionate about traveling and 
being in the mountains and stuff. There 
was this friend of ours in Australia who 
also 
wanted come back and do something in 
the mountains. So we called him and the 
three of us started this. 
It was a result of a mix of our common 
interests and the experience we had 
with the government that led to our 
starting this 
journey. 
  
6bridges:So you moved from TISS 
and worked with the Himachal 
government for sometime. Tell us about 
that. 
Ishita:
I worked with this agency called 
KAPAAT, where I got a campus 
placement after TISS. I worked with them 
for about 2 years. In 
the organization I was based in their 
eastern centre in Chandigarh and from 
there I went and worked with the 
Himachal 
government, with whom they had a tie-
up. So I went to work with the Himachal 
rural development department through 
them. Then 
something got going and there was a 
huge project funded for Himachal 
government. It was the first foreign 
funded project for 
rural development.  It was basically on 
linking women’s livelihood to environment 
conservation: so it was environment 
conservation through women’s groups. 
  
I was made in charge of the 
implementation of that but then it was so 
frustrating because for one year, they 
didn’t release 
any funds, and it just remained in the 
files. So, after a point in time, you 
wonder what you are going to talk to the 
communities about – that we must do this 
activity but I don’t know why the 
government is taking so long to release 
these 
funds. So that was really frustrating. 
And that’s why we didn’t see a point in 
continuing in this field with the 
government. 
That’s how we started our thing!
  
6bridges:
How difficult was the decision to move to 
Spiti? Were there any moments, 
conversations or events that acted as a 
trigger? Was 
it too difficult a choice at that time?
 
Ishita:
We were all young and passionate at 
that point of time and you don’t really plan 
too much when you are young and 
passionate 
about things. You jump into it and know 
everything will fall into place, and you 
don’t think too much.  I did it then, but if 
I had done it now I would have thought 
about it and made a business plan etc 
and would have never gone down to 
doing it. So, 
it kind of… what the hell lets just do it!
  
6bridges: 
How did people around react to your 
decision of starting a non-profit in a 
remote area? 
Ishita:
Most people were a bit shocked why we 
wanted to go there. Especially, since it 
was a far flung area with such limited 
access. 
I think that was a worry like ‘whats 
wrong with you…have you guys lost it 
completely!’ But then all of us were so 
independent 
that we didn’t think much of what our 
families had to say to us. We just wanted 
to go ahead and do it.
 
  
6bridges:
What were the initial challenges when 
you started– you faced setbacks 
including Parikshit at an early stage. How 
did you cope 
with the initial challenges at that time?
 
Ishita:
See, initially one if the main challenges 
was to get the people together to start 
working on it  A lot of stuff had been 
done 
on seabuckthorn in the beginning and 
they tried to mobilize the community at 
that point in time and then it was sort of 
left 
midway.
   
It was a challenge to get the community 
on our side. It was simple in that sense 
because when we first went to Spiti and 
asked whom should we speak to in the 
community out there, they said there was 
a ‘No-No’ out there who was the king of 
Spiti. 
So the first thing we did when we went 
to Spiti was meet with him and discuss 
the ideas. He was a very genuine and 
down to 
earth kind of a person who really wanted 
to do something for his place as well. He 
had known about seabuckthorn and 
wanted to 
do something on it. He said that he would 
support us completely. So we got his 
support right from the start, because we 
didn’t have any money with us at that 
time. We were lucky to get a project 
funded by a German funding agency.
  
We got it by chance since we happened 
to be there at the right time and place. 
They had to get rid of their money and 
they 
found us and said okay, which is a rare 
happening! But we didn’t have any 
money to pay them for the berries that 
they were 
harvesting. We got a small amount from 
them and just had enough money to set 
up the processing facilities for this. 
  
So we had to sell the pulp. The idea was 
to pulp the berries and sell it to the berry 
person. So once you got the money from 
him, you were able to pay the 
communities. It was quite a laughing 
matter and everyone was making fun of 
us that we were 
working with women in five villages and 
not getting paid for the work we were 
doing. People wondered if we had lost it 
completely! But we said we trust the No-
No and so we’ll do this. So that was a 
major challenge at that time. 
  
The other thing was that none of us had 
any background in food processing, and 
so we had to learn from scratch. Things 
like 
how do you make the pulp, preserve it, 
transport it and prevent it from going bad. 
Seabuckthorn is a berry on which not 
much 
research has gone into it. It has got lots 
of medicinal benefits but it also has a 
short shelf life. The berry once 
harvested 
has to be pulped in four hours flat. These 
were some of the challenges in terms of 
technical aspects.
  
6bridges:
How long did this period of challenges 
last? 
Ishita:
There have been challenges all along. 
We don’t really have the background for 
the kind of stuff we are doing. Right 
now, we 
are working on climate change issues 
and renewable energy. So we are 
constantly grappling with newer issues 
and things which 
are not really in our fields of 
specialization. So either you overcome 
the challenges through partnerships with 
people who do 
have knowledge of that or you figure out 
ways to try and teach yourself.
   
6bridges:
You start with a certain plan and 
objective and over time that evolves and 
develops. How has the idea evolved in 
your case. 
You started with seabuckthorn and now 
you are doing a lot more for that 
area.  
Ishita:
Initially when we started working in Spiti 
we thought we will work for one or two 
years and once we are successful we’ll 
do 
something else. But once you are there 
you always come up with other issues 
that you feel should be addressed. So 
initially 
when we started working on 
seabuckthorn, it was just about this 
particular berry and nothing else. In 2004 
there were these 
group of people who came in from Snow 
Leopard conservancy who came looking 
for partners in tourism and snow leopard 
conservation.
   
They found out that we were working in 
Spiti and were keen to partner with us. 
We were also interested and were keen 
to look 
at some of the tourism issues in the 
valley. During my masters, I had done a 
dissertation on the impact of tourism on 
the 
ecological, social and cultural 
environment of an area. That was 
something we were looking at. Tourism 
was building up in the 
area but no revenue was actually 
staying within Spiti. All that was left 
about was garbage and the regular 
consequences of 
tourism. So we wanted to look at how 
the locals could benefit from tourism 
more. 
  
We did a survey with the travelers as 
well and one of the feedback we 
gathered from them was that they 
weren’t really getting 
an insight into the local culture – 
something which they really wanted to. 
They wanted to stay with the locals and 
see how 
they live and what they do. That’s when 
we started working on homestays and 
also began working  on tourism related 
things – 
like how livelihood could be benefited and 
how could we link various conservation 
issues to tourism. 
  
Our objective from the start has been 
that if you are able to link economics to 
conservation, that’s the only way people 
will 
start showing interest in it. That’s the 
reason also we started with 
seabuckthorn, not because it has some 
great medicinal 
value and hence economic potential, but 
more so because it is very good for the 
ecology of the area and it binds the soil 
and 
fixes nitrogen. So for a cold desert it’s a 
really good plant to have, especially 
along the river beds where a huge 
amount of 
soil erosion that happens there. 
  
6bridges:
Women have been generally constituted 
the workforce in these parts. After you 
started encouraging local 
entrepreneurship 
here, did you manage to get the men 
onboard? 
Ishita:
If you see, in most of the hill areas, 
women do most of the work. Right from 
the start we were looking to channelise 
more 
funds and generate more incomes. The 
men would have never even come 
forward to doing this. That’s because it a 
very difficult 
plant to harvest. 
  
It’s very thorny and you have to go to the 
fields early in the morning to harvest it. 
It’s a very tedious process actually to 
harvest it. In fact, one of the huge groups 
in Spiti came forward and said they 
wanted to do it because there seemed to 
be a 
good amount of money in it. They tried for 
a few days and then they gave up. It 
was hard for them. But the women are 
persevering and they continued. Also, 
because they don’t have too many 
sources of alternate income for 
themselves. It caused 
a lot of issues in the families. 
  
That’s because in the 2-3 weeks 
seabuckthorn season, they would go off 
early in the mornings to harvest the berry 
and there 
would be no one to look after the family. 
The husband would have to get up and 
look after the family in the morning and 
run 
the risk of people saying, “Oh God our 
women are not here, what are you 
people doing?” Women in Spiti are on the 
whole are 
outgoing and quite vocal.
  
6bridges:
So did you manage to change the gender 
demographics of entrepreneurship in the 
area? 
Ishita:
I won’t say it had a huge impact. I would 
think that women in Spiti are fairly 
liberated. That didn’t affect that part as 
such. 
  
6bridges:
When you started out, social 
entrepreneurship was not a common 
occurrence in India. Besides, you were 
planning to work in at 
a place that was poorly connected and 
had its own challenges. Were you 
apprehensive at any time?
 
Ishita:
It slowly started to grow like a social 
entrepreneurship model. We started off 
like a typical NGO - you receive funds 
and 
then you work with what you got. After 
sometime it got really frustrating working 
like that. You go to the funding agencies 
with a begging bowl asking for money so 
that we can slog ourselves to work in 
Spiti. There are not many benefits you 
get out 
of it but the attitude you get from them is 
something you wouldn’t want to take, 
and also they have their own agendas all 
the 
time that we’ll only fund this and we’ll 
only fund that etc. 
  
We said that doesn’t fit into the context of 
Spiti at all. Also we wondered how long 
could we carry on like this. We talk 
about sustainability but what about the 
sustainability of the organization. If you 
want to continue working on the projects 
and provide greenhouses and solar 
passive houses to the people, you can’t 
to do that if you cannot sustain yourself. 
That’s 
why slowly transitioned from an NGO 
model to a social entrepreneurship one. 
  
Also, the other thing we realized over a 
period was that though in the initial 
stages we got the local communities to 
do the 
marketing, we felt later that after a point 
in time, they couldn’t do that. That’s 
because they didn’t have any idea of 
market dynamics at the international level 
or even the dynamics in the urban 
centres. Therefore, they were never 
going to be 
able to reach that level. They were 
already occupied with the stuff they 
were doing for their own livelihood. So to 
expect 
them to market it would have been a bit 
hard. Not that it’s not possible, but it’s 
very hard. That’s when we felt we could 
help them with the marketing side of it. 
  
6bridges:
And you tried talking to the hotels and 
tourist agents earlier but they resisted 
the home stay models as it impacted their 
own revenue models. Is that when you 
had to go out and market yourself?
 
Ishita:
Yeah, it was by default that we got into 
the marketing the tourism stuff and now 
its reached a level where travelers come 
to 
us and say that we want everything. We 
tell them, “Ok we will organize everything 
for you.” So it has moved into tourism 
since there is a market demand for that 
and so slowly it has transitioned into that 
as we felt that the communities couldn’t 
really do these things. 
  
6bridges:
So is your revenue model woven around 
seabuckthorn, marketing local products 
like handicrafts etc and ecotourism?
 
Ishita:
See, the main revenue comes from 
tourism. The seabuckthorn has been a 
real challenge, that’s the first project we 
started on 
and yet it’s not been sustainable on its 
own. There has been huge politics in the 
seabuckthorn market. There was a lot of 
politics involved. Sometime back Chinese 
pulp started coming in, and the 
seabuckthorn market has been very 
unstable. We had 
to transition from just selling pulp to the 
lehberry person because he started 
getting pulp from China. Then we had to 
transition into making our own products 
and then we were struggling to get our 
products into the market. So, I mean it’s 
has 
been quite a struggle for us to get this 
seabuckthorn thing completely 
sustainable. It’s not very easy since 
people are not 
aware of seabuckthorn, its very sour 
and has a very short shelf life. We’ve 
had huge issues with seabuckthorn 
actually. The 
enterprise is right now supported largely 
by ecotourism. 
  
6bridges:
What should professionals keep in mind 
before taking the plunge into social 
entrepreneurship? What is the right kind 
of 
experience needed to work in this area? 
 
Ishita:
I would tell you from my experience that 
if we had given it a deep thought, we 
might have never landed up doing it. I 
would 
go against the normal thing of planning 
and thinking far too deeply. I believe a lot 
of it depends on the passion quotient. 
If you have the passion for doing 
something, you will make it work it hook 
or by crook. 
  
Like if you’re going to think if I will get 
money or not, is my business plan 
breaking in 3-5 years or how am I going 
to 
sustain it etc…I mean we guys didn’t 
work on salaries for about two years, so 
maybe our model isn’t maybe the most 
appropriate one to go by. It was just that 
we wanted to do this, were passionate 
about it and so we landed up doing this! 
Whether other people would do this or 
whether this model is replicable – there 
are big question marks over those things.
  
6bridges:
How have your experiences and 
interactions with the people in and 
around Spiti had an influence on how 
you look at life and 
the world? 
Ishita:
Spiti has very harsh conditions. So living 
there reminds you how limited our 
resources are, and how consumptive 
our urban 
lifestyles are. We just take everything so 
much for granted. These are all non-
renewable resources like water etc. I 
have 
seen the way these people live and 
realized how hard life here in Spiti is. Like 
how hard it is to get water or get that 
one 
crop. 
  
You realize how life is significantly 
dependent upon the environment or how 
delicate the ecological balance is. 
For instance if the snowfall doesn’t 
happen at the right time, it’s a drought 
year for them.  
Sitting in urban centers it doesn’t affect 
us since in those places everything is 
provided for, and so we don’t think of 
these things. So these are some of the 
things that I was influenced by.
  
6bridges:
What are the challenges you have faced 
in trying to overturn conventional 
practices about self reliance and 
sustainability? 
How much of a mental change towards 
sustainability have you achieved?
 
Ishita:
At the end of the day, its dictated by 
economics. Nobody really understands 
environment. They say, “Isme hamara 
kya faida 
hai.” So its simple – if they are to profit 
from it, they will do it, otherwise they 
won’t. There is a notion that 
communities look at long-term 
sustainability. I haven’t seen that very 
evidently. Instead, they look at immediate 
benefits 
and how much of it they are reaping from 
work. Its like, “If I am getting a lakh to do 
this, I will do it. If I am not 
getting a lakh to do this, to hell with it 
then.” Societies have become so 
materialistic over the years that 
economics is now 
the most crucial thing.
  
If they don’t see economic incentive or 
savings in what they are doing, there is 
no way people will do it. The only reason 
that the solar passive houses we 
promote, have been successful is 
because it cuts down the expenses and 
enables the people 
here to save money. Not that they care 
about the amount of carbon that is being 
emitted into the air. We tried showing 
them 
the correlation about the black carbon 
that gets released and then returns to 
settle on the glaciers and serves to 
deplete 
them (the glaciers) further. It did have an 
effect on them, and they have digested 
that cycle and sort of understood it. But 
still, they believe that such a cycle would 
take very long and they look at the 
immediate needs more. So, they look at 
immediate gains and losses more.
  
  
6bridges:
Your mom encouraged you to trek 
outdoors at an early age and you spent 
some time with your grandmother who 
was a British 
nurse in World War II. How has your 
family been an influence? 
Ishita:
My family has been really supportive. We 
are two sisters, I have an elder sister, 
and therefore we have been brought up 
like 
sons in the family. My parents have 
always insisted that we have to stand on 
our feet and not be dependent on 
anyone. We were 
always brought up like that. And my 
grandmother did have a very large impact 
on me since she was there during all the 
formative years. We grew up with her 
basically. She was a very adventurous 
person, so I think I got a lot of inspiration 
from 
her. She had these great stories about 
how she came into World War II and how 
she worked as a nurse in Simla for 
sometime and 
then in Calcutta. 
  
Then she got married to my grandfather. 
He was with the railways and they kept 
getting transferred to various places. 
Everywhere they went, they started a 
social project. My grandmother was 
posted in Chennai for a long time, where 
she and a 
friend of hers started a project which is 
still functional in a place called Madlapalli. 
The project is to do with health and 
children’s education and things like that. 
  
I think I grew up with all these stories and 
so they were an inspiration to me. 
  
6bridges:
Do you want to replicate the model at 
Spiti elsewhere in the country where it 
might be useful, including the eco-tourism 
model? 
Ishita:
Our main focus has always been Spiti 
and maybe the neighboring areas around 
it. We have already started working in 
places 
like Lahaul and Kinnaur and we have 
partners in Ladakh doing similar things. 
Though this model can be replicated 
elsewhere, I 
would not like to be a physical part of 
such a project elsewhere. Instead I 
would be happy to partner other 
organizations, 
help with our inputs so that they learn 
and apply it in their areas. I don’t think I 
will physically locate myself elsewhere 
to create a similar model.
  
6bridges:
At a young age, you have managed to 
achieve a lot of things. More importantly, 
you have managed to succeed in putting 
your 
passion into practice. Talking to you, 
What is the big dream that you dream of?
 
Ishita:
Big dreams? No big dreams! Basically, I’d 
like to stabilize what I am doing right now. 
Right now me and my colleagues handle 
activities like marketing etc. We would like 
to hand over the ground level Spiti related 
activities to the local team. We are 
also looking at how we can expand and 
plan other initiatives in this area itself – 
which could include things like work on 
renewable energy, climate change and 
stuff. We are looking at ways how we 
can earn. We are also looking at WWF 
and the impact 
assessment of tourism in the area. 
  
For past few years it has been 
increasing to quite an extent, and the 
negative impact is becoming more visible 
now. How we 
can look at the policy for Spiti which is an 
ecologically fragile area, and then look at 
policy implications for the 
government through that. So the issues 
we are looking at are Spiti-specific and 
the ecosphere and how it can address 
some of 
the negative impact of tourism in this area 
– like climate change and stuff.
  
So in terms of big dreams, there are no 
big dreams really! It is basically to see 
how we can enhance our initiatives 
focused 
on Spiti and maybe the neighbouring 
parts. 
  
6bridges:
So, do you spend a lot of time in Spiti, or 
how is it? 
Ishita:
I am mostly there in Spiti in the summer 
months April/May to October/November. 
Then I come down the hills since it gets 
very 
cold in Spiti. It goes down to about minus 
30 degrees and there isn’t much you can 
do there. So, in that period, I am based 
in Delhi, Dehradun or travel around a lot 
the other time.
  
6bridges:
What is that thing that has given you the 
most satisfaction in your work with Muse 
and Ecosphere?  
Ishita:
Personally, I feel there is a long way to 
go and there is a lot to be done really. 
Every day there are things that provide 
you a lot of satisfaction. Everyday there 
are things that provide you a lot of 
satisfaction. There are so many 
challenges – 
like the one on seabuckthorn. 
Overcoming a particular challenge is 
again a big satisfaction, and when you 
simplify it so that 
the local community can do it – that is 
also a big satisfaction. So there is no 
specific thing but all these things that we 
have being doing that have given me 
satisfaction. Overall, it includes activities 
that have an impact on the environment 
and 
help the local community through 
increasing their income or reducing 
expenses.
  
6bridges:
How do you plan to make the local 
community to participate more? How do 
you plan to hand over the reins of 
activities to the 
local community? 
Ishita:
Right now our team consists of mostly 
locals. Its been a gradual transition 
where we have been trying to hand over 
operations 
to them. We have reached a stage 
where 50-60% of the work is handled by 
them at the local levels. So, though we 
have been 
wanting to hand over for a long time, we 
realized that it’s a much more gradual 
process than what we thought it would 
be. 
  
Their capacities have been really low, 
and over the years their capacities have 
built up and now we get shocked at how 
fast 
they are at picking up things. But yeah, 
you have to give it a lot of time and effort. 
 
  
 
  
6bridges:
How can somebody who wishes to help 
Ecosphere and its cause make a 
contribution? 
Ishita:
There are various ways in which people 
can get involved. One of the ways is if 
you want to volunteer with us and if you 
have 
specific skill sets, then you can email us 
and we can see how we can use those 
skill sets. 
  
6bridges:
What specific skill sets are those?
 
Ishita:
Like for instance, we need help in 
marketing. We need help in planning and 
business development and in putting 
simple things 
like posters or helping us in developing a 
guide books for Spiti like a green guide or 
green ratings and things like that 
which we are working on. So, it’s a wide 
array of things that one can work on. 
And we require volunteers for these 
things. 
The other way someone can help is – if 
you have a lot of money that you can 
donate. 
  
The thing is that people generally do not 
like to donate their money because they 
aren’t sure how it is going to be spent. 
So, there is something called volunteer 
travel. You can travel here and work on 
the project if you want to, or you can 
donate 
money for the project. Volunteer travel is 
something we found to be very 
meaningful. You come to these areas as 
a traveler, 
work on a project and also contribute 
money towards it. 
  
We have these volunteers who come 
and develop green houses. We are now 
linking it up with the tourism industry. We 
have got 
really good responses – not from the 
Indian market but from the UK market 
where volunteer travel is a big thing. 
They want to 
come and travel, but they also volunteer 
to do something meaningful. They come 
and work on a greenhouse project with 
us for 2 
weeks, raise the money and work with 
the local communities to develop a 
greenhouse. 
  
At the end of the day, they go back really 
satisfied that they have helped build a 
green house for the local community 
which 
is going to help them grow vegetables 
even during the winters when it is minus 
20 degrees. No green vegetables grow 
in Spiti 
otherwise, and everything has to be 
brought in from Manali. 
  
So there are added benefits of working 
on a project like this which we found to 
be much more meaningful – for them as 
well as 
for us too. But not everyone wants to do 
that since some people may not have the 
time. So there are different options for 
different people. We also say that you 
can simply come and travel as well since 
all the revenue we generate goes back 
to the 
development projects or conservation 
projects that we work on. So indirectly, a 
traveler helps contribute to the 
development 
projects by traveling with us rather than 
with a tour operator who just pockets all 
the money and takes it out of the local 
economy in any case. 
  
6bridges:
So, have you faced competition in that 
sense, from the local tour  
Ishita:
There are very few local tour operators 
in Spiti. I can count 2 such tour operators 
as such who usually they have tie-ups 
with tour operators in Manali and Delhi 
who send them the tourists, and who are 
the regular tour operators. Initially we 
found that the tour operators were not 
interested in any of the products like 
home stays or any of the other things. 
Now in 
Europe, responsible travel has become 
such a buzzword that clients now want 
to travel responsibly, which is also a 
problem 
since every other tour operator now 
claims he runs a responsible trip, which 
they don’t. Responsible also means you 
are 
paying fair wages. 
  
According to us, responsible travel 
means much more. The problem now is 
of everyone claiming to be responsible. I 
think 
that’s something that always will happen 
in any industry whenever anything 
becomes a buzzword, everyone tries to 
follow and 
get onto the bandwagon. But that is 
something I guess we will have to deal 
with. Tourism is more of a word-of mouth 
kind of a 
thing. You can come here, travel, go 
back and suggest it to more people. 
  
6bridges:
Thanks Ishita, we think you are doing 
inspiring work that will motivate others to 
follow or contribute through volunteer 
travel and in other ways. We must also 
congratulate you on a very impressive 
website. The map depicted on the 
website has 
specific details and brings out your love 
for geography, we reckon! 
Ishita:
Well, thanks for the compliment and I 
guess people now know where Spiti is 
and that will help the cause of the 
region.
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